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Wednesday
Nov252009

Wasteful Widgets #3: Recent Comments

Many blogs display recent comments, either by the blog owner or other people. I've implemented this myself in the past, but now have reservations about doing so, for the following reasons.

Firstly, I'm not a legal expert but I should have thought that if you're going to display people's comments somewhere other than where they originally posted them, you should at least warn people that you may do so. A lot of blogs don't.

Even if you don't need to from a legal point of view (and I imagine that would depend on which country you reside in), it seems to me to be the right thing to do anyway, which is why the Terms and Privacy policy on this website states that if you post a comment it may be used elsewhere on the site, or in the newsletter.

However, there is also a moral dimension: is it right to take someone's comment out of context, without at least some clarifying text? Perhaps most of the time this won't be an issue, but imagine this scenario:

Suppose I read on someone's blog that she wrote an article for a commercial magazine, for no pay in order to get her foot in the door, and has now been told that they are not interested in commissioning her for any paid work. However, because her article was pretty good they would always be interested in receiving more, just not in paying for them.

I might write a comment like, "Your first mistake was writing an article for free. You should always agree on the fee before putting pen to paper, as it were."

Taken out of context, that could be quite reputation-damaging. It suggests, for example, that I would only write an article if I am going to be paid money for it. Anyone reading the comment will not have the benefit of seeing the context in which it was made.

In this respect, automatically posting recent comments suffers from a similar consideration to posting Twitter conversations, ie they only make complete sense in context.

As for posting your own comments automatically, I don't see the point in that at all, unless it's to demonstrate to all and sundry how ubiquitous you and your wisdom are. But again, taken out of context, your own comments have little meaning in my opinion.

What I think would be quite handy would be an application that collates comments from all over the place on a particular blog post. I sometimes have few comments on the blog itself, but they appear elsewhere such as on Twitter of Facebook.

I think overall, my objection to automatic comment posting from an educational point of view is that it represents a poor use of ICT in education. To my mind, ICT should seek to solve a problem or answer a question, not be used just for its own sake. Perhaps if someone could explain the point of displaying comments somewhere other than where they were put in the first place I'd feel differently about it.

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Reader Comments (2)

You set me thinking here, Terry. Thanks.

I think the main issue is not whether a comment appears out of context through a widget, but whether the widget provides a link to the original context or not.

Many blogs allow me to RSS the comments only. Is it wrong to choose to read words out of the text that triggered them?

I'm not a legal expert either. I believe that unless you can show or prove intention of damage in your taking words out of their original context, there is no breaking of the law by displaying comments in a widget.

I am not a great lover of widgets myself. Here's why:
http://eltnotes.blogspot.com/2007/02/on-gadgets-and-widgets.html
Pages tend to load very slowly in countries with slow connections making them rather inaccessible, which is neither respectful to the reader nor useful to the blogger.

And now you leave me with one question in my mind:
How do we define context online?

November 25, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterClaudia Ceraso

Thanks for commenting, Claudia. On this blog it is possible to subscribe to an RSS feed of comments; I wouldn't say it is 'wrong' to choose to read words out of their original context; I just don't see what's to be gained by doing so. One of the reasons I now use Tweetdeck is that it has a "in reply to..." section on each tweet, which is handy for me because when I receive a tweet that says, for example, "Well I don't agree with you", I cannot for the life of me recall what I said to prompt any kind of reaction at all! In other words, it's meanlingless to me without the original context.

Regarding the legal bit, I'm not sure if there is a copyright issue. For example, if I submit an article to a magazine, and they publish it, I don't then expect to see the same article appear again without (a) seeking my permission first and (b) without paying me again. I know that people don't expect to be paid for posting comments, but perhaps the blog owner should not assume that the commenter is happy to have her comments posted again, somewhere else, without permission. I may be completely wrong, but it just seems to me to be safer, and more 'up front' to have something on your website to say that you may reuse comments that people make.

Thanks for the link to your article. It highlighted two things I'd forgotten to mention: one is the dreadful mess that all these widgets create. That's why I am keeping them to a minimum on this new website. Secondly, they really do slow everything down, so thanks for making that point too!

How do we define context online? That is a really good point. In a talk I went to recently, and which I will be writing about soon, a time (temporal) context was discussed. Look out for an article about 'Delete'.

Thanks again for your incisive comments, Claudia.

November 25, 2009 | Registered CommenterTerry Freedman

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